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Cummins12V98 · 01-08-2019, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by porkchop

What you really need to do is learn the difference between opinion and fact.

Bill

WELL, provide something that opposes what i have stated.

I have not heard ONE reason to buy a Ford or GM over a RAM. I have given many fACTS along with opinion and experience.

But hey who wouldn't want a "SuperDuty"

terry and jo · 01-08-2019, 03:02 PM

With all due respect, not all "hot-shotters" are using Ram trucks. I see a lot of those folks here in Oklahoma with Fords.

As for the Ram name, look on the door panel of a Ram truck and I'd bet money (and I'm not a betting man) that the label refers to "The Chrysler Group." Also, if one can buy a brand new Ram at anyplace other than an authorized Chrysler/Dodge dealer, I would be surprised. Sorry, but Ram is still a Dodge.

Terry

MTK46 · 01-08-2019, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cummins12V98

You WILL most likely be over your trucks GVWR, that freaks some out but that is only there for licensing/insurance purposes.

I have the same model MS with the vanity slide, generator & Canadian heating package. Mine is a 2011 and loaded weight is under the GVWR of 14k for my 2014 F-350. 4000 lbs of pin weight & that was with 100 gallons of water. Under my GCWR also.

Cummins12V98 · 01-09-2019, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by terry and jo

With all due respect, not all "hot-shotters" are using Ram trucks. I see a lot of those folks here in Oklahoma with Fords.

As for the Ram name, look on the door panel of a Ram truck and I'd bet money (and I'm not a betting man) that the label refers to "The Chrysler Group." Also, if one can buy a brand new Ram at anyplace other than an authorized Chrysler/Dodge dealer, I would be surprised. Sorry, but Ram is still a Dodge.

Terry

If we are dealing in FACTS here NO they are no longer Dodge as of the 2013 model year. LEGALLY they are RAM. Just the FACTS.

I am talking about independently OWNED plain and simple RAM owns this market.

Cummins12V98 · 01-09-2019, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK46

I have the same model MS with the vanity slide, generator & Canadian heating package. Mine is a 2011 and loaded weight is under the GVWR of 14k for my 2014 F-350. 4000 lbs of pin weight & that was with 100 gallons of water. Under my GCWR also.

My pin is a tad over that. At or under axle weights and under combined. Licensed for what my truck weighs.

I am guessing you must be VERY close, do you have a weight slip with full fuel including transfer tank if you have one and you and passenger?

anijet · 01-09-2019, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cummins12V98

If we are dealing in FACTS here NO they are no longer Dodge as of the 2013 model year. LEGALLY they are RAM. Just the FACTS.

I am talking about independently OWNED plain and simple RAM owns this market.

"Even though the Ram trucks are marketed separately from Dodge cars, former Ram Division President Fred Diaz stated, "Ram trucks will always and forever be Dodges. Ram will always have the Dodge emblem inside and outside and they will be 'vinned' (Vehicle Identification Number) as a Dodge."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Trucks

porkchop · 01-09-2019, 10:25 AM

"I am talking about independently OWNED plain and simple RAM owns this market."

More opinion unless you can provide facts. The "pros" who use ram are just like the "pros" who use Volvo. CHEAP throw a ways. And that is a fact.

Bill

Cummins12V98 · 01-09-2019, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by anijet

"Even though the Ram trucks are marketed separately from Dodge cars, former Ram Division President Fred Diaz stated, "Ram trucks will always and forever be Dodges. Ram will always have the Dodge emblem inside and outside and they will be 'vinned' (Vehicle Identification Number) as a Dodge."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Trucks

NOT true, he is the FORMER prez so take what he says with a grain.

FACT is they have been RAM since 2013 and there is NOT a single place that says "Dodge" on a 13 or newer truck.

FACT my Dad's 12 RAM says Dodge in the sunglass holder at the center of the dash as did my 11. They WERE RAM then also but LEGALLY they were Dodge and that is why they had to have Dodge at least one place on the truck.

Cummins12V98 · 01-09-2019, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by porkchop

"I am talking about independently OWNED plain and simple RAM owns this market."

More opinion unless you can provide facts. The "pros" who use ram are just like the "pros" who use Volvo. CHEAP throw a ways. And that is a fact.

Bill

Anyone paying attention driving our highways will see this to be true. I know you have been in the Elkhart area.

Yep my 98 12V my Son has now with 400k is a "CHEAP throw away". So it the 98 12V I sold a friends Son with nearly 400k.

I will be the first to admit Ford makes a nice truck, it's just the engines since the 6.9 and 7.3 that are the issue with me. The 6.7 has been a problem for many with the denial of many injection pump warranty claims. Seems they may have fixed the issue since I have not heard of much lately. GM got so tired of paying out claims on their Diesel with the same Bosch pump they recently have gone with a DENSO brand pump. Another negative for ME is the engine has FAR more moving parts and is much more complicated.

NOT saying Dodge or RAM's are perfect but you will see many more of them with extremely high mileage.

Visit "highmileage.cummins.com" Then under filters select milestone then 1,000,000 miles.

MTK46 · 01-09-2019, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cummins12V98

My pin is a tad over that. At or under axle weights and under combined. Licensed for what my truck weighs.

I am guessing you must be VERY close, do you have a weight slip with full fuel including transfer tank if you have one and you and passenger?

Yes I do just not with me here at work. I can tell you my gross total was 26,040 lbs. I have a shorter older MS then you do but it's the same model as the poster has bought. Not sure if mine has more options than his does though.

OneReallyOldGuy · 01-14-2019, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cummins12V98

My pin is a tad over that. At or under axle weights and under combined. Licensed for what my truck weighs.

I am guessing you must be VERY close, do you have a weight slip with full fuel including transfer tank if you have one and you and passenger?

If you’ve got a 3500 you are seriously over gross on that truck.

SrFox · 01-14-2019, 07:55 PM

Good advice above and congrats! Plan to stay a week at the dealer and leave early if you feel comfortable. That is a lot of rig with many systems. I know, we have one. Take your time and you will enjoy it as much as we do. We live full time in ours and travel about 15,000 miles a year all over the US and Canada.

sfsgm · 01-15-2019, 03:04 AM

Ahhh, once again children in the play yard. No different than those in different military branches.

Get over yourselves.

rorr1821 · 01-15-2019, 08:29 AM

I had a 2016 DRV and 2016 Ram P/U 1 ton dually. The Ram is the best tow vehicle on the market. Almost all of your commercial people who tow trailers from Indiana manufacturing plants to dealers use Ram P/U.

You need to careful considerion to how you equip your truck with options. I recommend the air leveling system, puck system for the bed, Cummins HO engine, and the Aisin transmission as a minimum. The rear end ratio will determine your maximum legal tow weight. I would go with the 4.10. You can go to the web where Ram publishes charts showing all the spec’s.

Spec out your truck before you go to the dealer. DO NOT DEPEND ON ANYTHING A SALES PERSON TELLS YOU ABOUT WHAT YOU NEED. YOU TELL THEM WHAT YOU WANT. Do not compromises on what you need.

Ram just announced at the Detroit trade show that the new 3500 Ram P/U will tow 35,100 lbs when properly equipped. Ram P/U is a work horse.

Also do not take the word of the RV dealer or manufacture when it comes to weigh issues. Do not be deceived by a person or dealership claiming to be a Christian. I am a Christian and Bible talks about the wolves in sheep’s clothing. Make them take the unit to a scale. Remember the differance between the dry weight and the gross vehicle weigh determines your cargo carrying capacity. When you add water, cloths, food, passengers, propane, and stuff the weight adds up quick.

Enjoy your unit.

Ray

4happyfeet · 01-15-2019, 08:44 AM

Hi, y'all. New to this forum, but not new to RVing. Just bought a 2019 F350 DRW, moving from a 2017 Ram 3500 DRW. The Ram had 3:73 rear end and I wanted to have 4:10. Was going to order new Ram, but got impatient and found this F350. I can tell you the immediate difference to me has been the ride quality. When I took DW for he first ride, I asked her what her first impression was. She said "This rides like my Cadillac". Also moved from 2015 Redwood 38RL to 2019 41 RKSB4, which we pick up this coming Friday, so can't say how towing is going yet. The GVWR on the MS is 17,800, so should be no problem for the F350. My two cents: my impression is that the working guys do pick Ram, but having driven both, the F350 feels more refined. We'll see!

**wingnut60** · 01-15-2019, 09:04 AM

4happyfeet,
Glad to have you here. The Suites will be a great unit, and the 350 will tow it just fine.
One minor item--might check the GVWR on that unit--you may be confusing the 'dry weight' with the gross weight. GVWR on that trailer should be 21000...
And watch the clearances on the bed to trailer when hitched, especially in off-level sharp backing.

You buy from ExploreUSA in Denton?

Cummins12V98 · 01-15-2019, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OneReallyOldGuy

If you’ve got a 3500 you are seriously over gross on that truck.

HA, pease tell me how I can load my rear axle to 9,750# and add ZERO weight to my front axle 5,300# and NOT be over my GVWR 0f 14,000#.

Did you know the f450 pickup has a GVWR of 14k also?

FACT the 14k is just a number to keep the truck in a non commercial rating and for licensing/insurance costs.

FACT it's impossible to load my rear axle to it's SAE RAWR of 9,750 and NOT be overloaded.

So what's one to do if they want to use their truck to it's rated axle weights? Simple buy tonnage to cover your trucks actual loaded weight.

4happyfeet · 01-15-2019, 10:16 AM

Hi, wingnut60. I'll look again at the GVWR. I may be confusing the dry weight, as you say. I bought the Ford 27.5 lb. hitch. I'll need to adjust new hitch, new truck and new trailer all at the same time, lol. I wish the rig had the 2" frame risers, but it doesn't. I was told it would have to go back to Morryde in Indiana to have them added. Maybe at a rally. Thanks for the advice.

Cummins12V98 · 01-15-2019, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sfsgm

Ahhh, once again children in the play yard. No different than those in different military branches.

Get over yourselves.

So what did you have to offer Mr 3rd poster????

You may not like some things that are said but there is usually good info to be had.

**wingnut60** · 01-15-2019, 10:56 AM

4happyfeet,
I don't have the risers, but do have a '17 450--my B&W hitch is at mid-height and have fair clearance--I did cut the flanges off the pin box outer plates as that is the part that contacts the bed rails, if any contact is going to happen. Just be careful after hitching up and make a few sharp turns, both forward and backward, while keeping a close eye on the pin box to bed rail clearances. Doing this will confirm any potential problem. Suggest that you do this AT THE DEALERSHIP when picking up the trailer.
I am almost level in stance when hitched, no air bags, maybe 1" high in front. I even have a Retrax bed cover on top of the rails with just small dents in the rails before I cut the flanges.
Just this Sept at Morryde, I was quoted $2200 to install the rails.