36 tk3 - Page 3

clev · 12-25-2017, 08:53 AM

Notan, as stated in my last post, I’m done, so I’m not posting any additional numbers. However, I will post that I use a DRV approved gooseneck and ball, it’s just my wife and me, and we travel light. And, the only numbers for anyone should consider are the one’s officially posted by Ford and Trailer Life. Then, they can make an educated decision that ‘safely’ suits their towing needs. This is my final post on the topic. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Dmcfarden · 03-08-2018, 06:45 PM

On the CAT scales, my 2012 36TKSB4 has a pin weight of 4,340 lbs. I don't have washer and dryer, nor dishwasher. It didn't have any fresh water in the tank and the waste tanks were empty. I do have a slide out basement tray, tool box, grill and some other basics in the basement area along with 2-6 volt batteries up front, no generator either. We aren't full timers and the front closet was empty and the trailer wasn't packed for a trip.

clev · 03-08-2018, 08:15 PM

Hi DMC; I have no idea why your 36 has a pin so heavy. My 36 has six 6-volt batteries, a slide out tray, washer, dryer, and clothes in the closet. I’m not looking at my specs, but my pin is ~3800. I don’t know what the ‘TKSB’ stands for, but our trailers are built on the same frame. Did you weigh the front separate from everything else?

Dmcfarden · 03-08-2018, 08:54 PM

Drive axle was 7600 after and 3260 before based on the weight slip receipts. I have the picture of the slips but couldn’t figure how to upload it. It’s a 36 TKSB3 with vanity slide in bedroom. Telescoping kitchen island.

clev · 03-08-2018, 09:32 PM

My drive axle is 7300 loaded and 3440 empty. It’s a mystery to me why yours is so much heavier loaded and your truck is lighter. What is your tow vehicle?

anijet · 03-08-2018, 09:41 PM

Here's mine. At that time it was a 2007 GMC DRW. First one is Truck only with hitch and aux fuel tank (don't remember fuel load). Second is with trailer, close to just how we brought it home from dealer. Third is loaded for a trip (probably cross country trip with typical 1/3 tank of fresh and empty black and gray). Little over 4300 on the pin. In all fairness fuel load difference between truck only and with trailer loaded to go could be ~450 but that would be shared with the front axle.

Clev's weight is doable since my empty trailer pin weight was ~3300#. I do have W/D.

clev · 03-08-2018, 10:09 PM

Hi anijet. My total truck, 2012 F350 KR, LWB, SRW weighs in at ~8500 and front is ~5k unloaded, and about 12k hooked up.

Dmcfarden · 03-09-2018, 09:10 AM

Clev. This was with my old truck. 2011 F350 SRW. My new truck is a 2017 F350 DRW. I realized I didn't add the hitch to the starting point weight which was about 240 lbs. So unloaded would be 3,500 lbs and loaded at 7,600 lbs. I'm still at 4,100 lbs. Does your MS have the front vanity slide out? Maybe that's the difference in pin weight.

porthole · 03-09-2018, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clev

I use a DRV approved gooseneck and ball

Just noticed this. What are you using?

When I asked DRV about the Reese Goosebox (which Lippert has approved for their frames) DRV said no go.

I have the Goosebox on my current trailer and had some warranty issues, so I have a brand new Goosebox sitting in my garage. Was planning on putting on the new RV but the DRV "no-go" has be changing my plans.

clev · 03-09-2018, 10:00 AM

Port, Mor-ryde makes an adapter plate specifically for adapting a g/neck to their DRV hitch. It is approved by both DRV and MR. My dealer installed mine prior to pickup. Also, g/necks are adjustable in a couple of places. After I got mine adjusted, I had everything welded, including where it was bolted to the pin. Go to MR’s site and you can find the plate there.

clev · 03-09-2018, 10:04 AM

DMC, my hitch weighs less than 75 pounds, so that accounts for some of the weight. Also, I don’t have the vanity slide; that’’s probably the rest. But, it’s still a little confusing. My 4 extra batteries are close to 300 lbs and the washer and dryer are about 150.

porthole · 03-09-2018, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clev

Port, Mor-ryde makes an adapter plate specifically for adapting a g/neck to their DRV hitch. It is approved by both DRV and MR. My dealer installed mine prior to pickup. Also, g/necks are adjustable in a couple of places. After I got mine adjusted, I had everything welded, including where it was bolted to the pin. Go to MR’s site and you can find the plate there.

The MOR/ryde page doesn't really show much with the gooseneck kit. At least with the PullRIte adapter it is fairly obvious.

Have a picture of what you are using?

clev · 03-09-2018, 03:19 PM

Try this link:

http://www.morryde.com/products/72-g...ck-adaptor-kit

It’s available from lots of online places. I’ll get a picture and post it when I get home.

clev · 03-09-2018, 03:20 PM

Also, “to my knowledge”, this is the only
adapter that MR and DRV will authorize.

Dmcfarden · 03-09-2018, 06:47 PM

Clev. Thanks for the information. My rig was similar to yours which I ran for 5 years. I'm close to retiring and decided it was time for a new truck and couldn't resist the new 2017 trucks. We were camping in Magnolia, TX last September and saw a MS 38RSS and he was using a LWB F350 SRW which appeared to have modifications to the rear axle and suspension. I was curious and wanted to talk with him, but they were away while we were there. This was the first trip in the new truck. I'm also thinking I'm going to have to get rid of my Curt Q24. Sure had a lot of chucking, which may be the CURT but I know I was nose high. Trying to help that, I recently added the Correct Track to my suspension which added 2" in height on the trailer which I hope helps, but I haven't hitched up yet so I'll see. I see you're in San Marcos. On the way back home we stopped by the Buckhorn Lake RV park in Kerrville, TX. Don't know if you've been there, but that's a first class RV park, one of the best I've been to.

clev · 03-09-2018, 09:13 PM

I'm trying to attach pictures of my gooseneck.
The G/neck is a Convert-a-Ball and has a tow rating of 20k, pin is 4k. I've had the neck welded all the way around in 3 places and am sure the numbers will now exceed that.

clev · 03-09-2018, 09:14 PM

This is kind of a side view. The 'U' shaped plate on the bottom is the More-Ryde adapter plate.

oldbird · 03-09-2018, 11:58 PM

I can't help but asking, why a gooseneck? I have a 35' enclosed trailer for hauling stuff around but I think it a PITA hooking it up. Maybe there is a easy way to do it, IDK.

clev · 03-10-2018, 12:05 AM

Hi Oldbird. Did you notice the white stripe on the front of the g/neck? I have a bed mat in the truck with 2 white stripes painted on either side of the ball extending back to the tail gate. I have a camera underneath the rear window aimed at the ball and rearward. When I'm backing up, I line up the stripe on the g/neck between the 2 stripes in the bed. Really, not too difficult, and my wife helps.

I opted for a g/neck because I didn't want the big 5th wheel contraption in the bed; added weight and clutter. So, with a g/neck when unhooked, my bed is clear.

oldbird · 03-10-2018, 09:26 AM

Clev, that makes sense, thanks for explaining that. I don't use my 35' gooseneck very much so I was wondering about hooking up all the time. It would be nice to do away with the 5th wheel hitch.